@emilion @glipari @hyde EU is not powerless to change this, it can enact regulations that enforce emissions standards on companies that want to sell goods and services in EU.
US companies debt/load is relevant because the worse it is, the more money will get wasted once that bubble pops. Money that could have been used for literally anything else and would have provided a better outcome.
@emilion @hyde and a reminder that a few years ago AI hype pushers like Bill Gates were all about how AI will "solve" the climate crisis. Last year Gates stopped even pretending that much.
When asked about how AI is to make money, Altman said 2 years ago "we'll build AGI and ask it"; a year ago he switched to "AGI is not a useful term".
And this is what you want the EU to invest billions of EUR into? And you are surprised I struggle to treat that seriously?
@guenther @Codeberg I'm a kernel developer doing agent plugins for my own comfort; and well considered production use; definitely not an AI guy in psychosis. So yeah, I vote rather for no AI at Codeberg than that horrible slop that is still causing me traumas annihilates the site :-)
For me this is only a practical matter. I partition my projects between Codeberg and Gitlab already, which ever suits the best. There are many reasons to pick one over another, such as differences in the CI.
@emilion @hyde and finally, if "Europe becomes Sahara anyway" as you suggest, then being a competitive trading block is going to be the least of our worries.
Instead of speeding that process up by throwing billions of EUR into the dumspter fire of AI (and thus making energy, water, and emissions issues even more serious!), we should be spending that money to prepare for the accelerating climate changes that have already arrived and are only going to get worse.
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@guenther @Codeberg Yeah, I did the announcement when it came out. First it did not make sense or "maybe it too extrreme". Then after reading it again +2 days I fully grabbed the point. It's a great argument.
And this is why I'm moving even my coding agent plugins from Github to Gitlab. They've turned to be popular (maybe, just maybe the reason could be that I know the source code and despite also AI assisted, I've paid at least as much of my vim-attention to them).
It's a problem because that makes me a potential target for slop bombing. Issues and PRs have turned weird enough that I have depart the sinking ship :-) And I've noticed the exact same thing: issues and PRs are like "task delegates" as a result of an agent hitting to a wall. No was time is saved as no one even considered why we want to submit this.
It appears as time as time was saved, as I'm the hidden part of the cost function :-)
@emilion @hyde and even if we're talking about "AI" specifically – which again, I don't think we should, but here we are – if EU wants go get ahead of the game, then instead of parroting what US is doing and trying to copy the centralized gigantic general LLM service model, it should bet on small models trained for specific tasks.
Years ago there was a memo leaked from Google warning that small models will eat their cake. Researchers had been saying same for years as well.
> the green and digital transitions demand unprecedented levels of investment and innovation.
Digital transformation does not have to mean "AI", and in fact there are good reasons not to identify digital transformation with "AI". AI is a bubble that is already starting to pop. Instead of throwing billions of EUR into that trash fire, we could invest into green energy transition, and the local IT sector that happens not to only do hype.
it's really difficult to take your invitation to have a rational conversation about this seriously if you start with:
> It is a fact that the EU is falling back, which will bring dire consequences to its citizens.
Falling back in what sense? Life expectancy is higher than in the US, so is literacy. As much as I would like it to go even faster, green energy transition is going faster in EU than in the US. So what, exactly, is the EU "falling behind" on?
